my javascript less world..
Today, I had to decide what project to vote for in the best of swiss web contest..
Well.. They all look kinda fancy, kinda blingbling, kinda oh-here-we-go-make-it-bumbumbumpengpeng, kinda give the user the chocolate they want..
Have these boys EVER used a shell? I don't really think so.. If you grew up with a shell then you would NEVER turn into that hamptidampti mode, for sure.
Anyways.. hampdidampdi pages are nice for hampdidampdi blingbling style people.. What about disabled people? what about richard stallman? what about THE FRIGGIN IPHONE USERS?!
Sometimes you really have to lose faith in this world..
Just a quick review:
radio 105tv: not usable w/o js/flash.. [Diese Seite benötigt Flash Player 8.0. Bitte laden Sie den Flash Player hier.] .. at least you'll get rid of all the ads (which is about 50% of the page)
cmsbox: works FLAWLESS! (nice job :) I prefer haskell, but who cares..)
freitag: at least you get some content.. but nothing is working.. [ To see the content of this page correctly, you need to upgrade your Flash Player.] at least pictures in the background..
oSkope: yeah, well.. this is of course not working, but flash is kinda the heart of that thing - it wouldn't really work without :) - of course the searching would be possible..
capricorn/remix graubuenden: http://screencast.com/t/PBUWgHlUxEv - that's it :) not even a hint that you need flash
kpt einzeltraining: no personal trainer without flash.. awwwwwww.. but not even a page.. you need flash or get fat! (which is odd, since flash makes everything fat and slow.. usually)
le menu: works flawless.. and even very very nice and usable content.. the register thing bugged me though.. but nevermind
laax.com: MY FAVORITE.. there is not even a comment needed: screencast.com/t/EQiG7eSof
tvprogramm.sf.tv: first I thought: this will never work w/o js.. well, it does! this is quite cool. (i like the project anyway.. nice job) but you don't have the full functionality (you can't add stations and stuff)
iconomix.ch: yeah well, I worked on that thing day in - day out, I can't really rate it.. But.. (facts now) All the content is available without flash/js, except the games.. (people w/o js probably won't care about games anyway)
So boys of the web2.0.. what's wrong with you? This web thing was about information, not about hampdidampdi.. but I guess publicity has a bigger money-weight than usability.. Go on make stuff fancy and useless..
UPDATE:
lejoe_> marca: didn't you mean accessibility instead of usability in your last sentence (blog post)?
- I actually meant both..
Well.. They all look kinda fancy, kinda blingbling, kinda oh-here-we-go-make-it-bumbumbumpengpeng, kinda give the user the chocolate they want..
Have these boys EVER used a shell? I don't really think so.. If you grew up with a shell then you would NEVER turn into that hamptidampti mode, for sure.
Anyways.. hampdidampdi pages are nice for hampdidampdi blingbling style people.. What about disabled people? what about richard stallman? what about THE FRIGGIN IPHONE USERS?!
Sometimes you really have to lose faith in this world..
Just a quick review:
radio 105tv: not usable w/o js/flash.. [Diese Seite benötigt Flash Player 8.0. Bitte laden Sie den Flash Player hier.] .. at least you'll get rid of all the ads (which is about 50% of the page)
cmsbox: works FLAWLESS! (nice job :) I prefer haskell, but who cares..)
freitag: at least you get some content.. but nothing is working.. [ To see the content of this page correctly, you need to upgrade your Flash Player.] at least pictures in the background..
oSkope: yeah, well.. this is of course not working, but flash is kinda the heart of that thing - it wouldn't really work without :) - of course the searching would be possible..
capricorn/remix graubuenden: http://screencast.com/t/PBUWgHlUxEv - that's it :) not even a hint that you need flash
kpt einzeltraining: no personal trainer without flash.. awwwwwww.. but not even a page.. you need flash or get fat! (which is odd, since flash makes everything fat and slow.. usually)
le menu: works flawless.. and even very very nice and usable content.. the register thing bugged me though.. but nevermind
laax.com: MY FAVORITE.. there is not even a comment needed: screencast.com/t/EQiG7eSof
tvprogramm.sf.tv: first I thought: this will never work w/o js.. well, it does! this is quite cool. (i like the project anyway.. nice job) but you don't have the full functionality (you can't add stations and stuff)
iconomix.ch: yeah well, I worked on that thing day in - day out, I can't really rate it.. But.. (facts now) All the content is available without flash/js, except the games.. (people w/o js probably won't care about games anyway)
So boys of the web2.0.. what's wrong with you? This web thing was about information, not about hampdidampdi.. but I guess publicity has a bigger money-weight than usability.. Go on make stuff fancy and useless..
UPDATE:
lejoe_> marca: didn't you mean accessibility instead of usability in your last sentence (blog post)?
- I actually meant both..
Comments
masterofsw
@ 14.02.2008 18:34 CEST
Why do you use flash yourself for three icons if you hate it?
And why don't you just install it to see all this hampdidampdi blingbling? Common, you'll miss all the candy. Do it!
And BTW: I've tried the shell. It sucked. So I stick to the WYSIWIG-Web 2.0 Dev-IDE, hehe. But thanks for the hints...
Why do you use flash yourself for three icons if you hate it?
And why don't you just install it to see all this hampdidampdi blingbling? Common, you'll miss all the candy. Do it!
And BTW: I've tried the shell. It sucked. So I stick to the WYSIWIG-Web 2.0 Dev-IDE, hehe. But thanks for the hints...
m4rc
@ 14.02.2008 19:18 CESTYou mean on iconomix? I don't know, to be honest.. designer-decision :)
Well, I use flash, but on my I-wann-be-like-Richard-Stallman-days - I don't :) No, just kidding. We had a hard time to make everything accessible without JavaScript / Flash, or let's say the frontend guys had a hard time.. I mean, I don't mind if something is not fully working (like tvprogramm), but if they didn't even think about it.. - that shows the serious need to broaden the horizon of some developers.. Or the example of oSkope.. Flash is a requirement to fulfill the use, not just the blingblingpengpeng..
Flash should be a nice-to-have, but not a requirement, IMHO..
digi604
@ 15.02.2008 10:22 CEST
well than i think we have to wait to html5 when the browsers support video, or do you want to code your own decoder in javascript?
well than i think we have to wait to html5 when the browsers support video, or do you want to code your own decoder in javascript?
m4rc
@ 15.02.2008 10:39 CESTWell, no. As I said: when it comes down to the real need of the application to make use flash to fulfill it's purpose, then it's really fine. What's seriously wrong is when people go out and develop a friggin flash website w/o alternative. Who wants a shitty flash dropdown or edit field where you can't even tab around or just hold down the backspace to delete all the text?
Just use the right tools in the right place..
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